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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2011, 04:07:42 PM »
Sign me up for a multicart as well!

I think the statement of 15-20 units is far below market demand, but of course you can do a first run and if demand remains do a second run. I'm sure there are Japanese collectors would want one too, so in practise at least 50 units probably would find buyers worldwide. Perhaps even that figure is onthe low side, the Sord/CGL/Takara M5 is a bit more common than people might think. They even almost made USA once, but I don't think the Sord/Socius operations ever took off there.

Oh by the way, I'm looking into building an Atari -> Sord joystick adapter with the help of my friends. I have an untested prototype that unfortunately will need external power (3-9V) to run. If I get it to work, I'll post more about it somewhere. Perhaps someone else already has made a such adapter?

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2011, 08:06:12 AM »
Sign me up for a multicart as well.

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2011, 03:57:07 PM »
Perhaps someone else already has made a such adapter?

I used an Apple ADB cable and re-wired an old joystick. It works nicely and doesn't need any external power. I can publish the workings-out if you like.

An intelligent adapter would be needed if you wanted a non-destructive method, but old joysticks are so cheap - why make it complicated?!

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2011, 09:48:23 PM »
Perhaps someone else already has made a such adapter?

I used an Apple ADB cable and re-wired an old joystick. It works nicely and doesn't need any external power. I can publish the workings-out if you like.

An intelligent adapter would be needed if you wanted a non-destructive method, but old joysticks are so cheap - why make it complicated?!

The connectors on the Sord joypads are the same as the ones on the end of a PS/2 keyboard or mouse, these can be bought from Maplins I believe,
though it may be a little LOLPRICE, the otehr end would need a male DB9, which can also be sourced from the same place.

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2011, 10:53:18 PM »
Perhaps someone else already has made a such adapter?

I used an Apple ADB cable and re-wired an old joystick. It works nicely and doesn't need any external power. I can publish the workings-out if you like.

An intelligent adapter would be needed if you wanted a non-destructive method, but old joysticks are so cheap - why make it complicated?!

Yep I would like the workings out please......

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2011, 08:23:32 AM »
This is what I have found from various sources. It is still untested, but I recently got a batch of 4066 chips (supposedly better than 4016) after a couple months of wait, so within short I plan to finalize a first prototype.
http://www.cbm.sfks.se/sord-joy.htm

I kind of understand how you can rewire an Atari style joystick so the directions work with a Sord, but I don't know how you got either fire button to work. Perhaps with some clever diodes and connect the wire for fire button with the wires for up and right instead of ground.
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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2011, 10:16:11 AM »
That's the diagram I used. I just wired a ps2 cable into the switches of a joypad with, like you say, 2 diodes connecting the fire & direction lines.

It works fine. No quad bilateral switches or 5v supplies needed :)

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2011, 10:24:51 AM »
That's the diagram I used. I just wired a ps2 cable into the switches of a joypad with, like you say, 2 diodes connecting the fire & direction lines.

It works fine. No quad bilateral switches or 5v supplies needed :)

That's fine if you don't mind dedicating a joystick to the Sord if you want to build an adapter so any joystick can work.....
Humm wonder if there is a +5V on the printer port should be easy enough to build a little board that plugged in there and to the 2 joystick ports.

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2011, 10:56:53 AM »
I think an adapter board sounds like a cracking idea though there's no 5v on the parallel port :(


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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2011, 06:15:53 PM »
Two 4016/4066 chips will be enough for four directions + two fire buttons in case one has e.g. a MSX joystick or I suppose some Sega gamepad. Three chips will be enough for eight directions + four fire buttons, i.e. two joysticks. Each chip needs 3-15V. I'm planning to use a 9V battery which will make the adapter a little clumsy but no worries about power source. Perhaps driving three chips from the same battery is a little on the edge.

IIRC, the Sord M5 has 5VDC+12VDC input so if a bit of hacking is in order, one could in worst case tap 12V from the power cable but maybe that is a big no-no for many reasons.

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2011, 09:28:26 PM »
Dammit, if we'd thought of this before sirmorris made his multicart we could have built it onto that :(

Or at the very least put a pair of pins on it to tap the 5V and GND from......

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2011, 09:50:27 PM »
There is the ICSP... that's got +5 & gnd on it.
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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2011, 02:49:22 PM »
I'll be bringing some m5 multi carts to the do on Saturday.

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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2011, 03:54:37 PM »
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Re: Sord M5 multicart
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2011, 10:24:45 PM »